Just looking for some information on which Perth schools have the best rugby program or at least the best history... it's for my boy who at the moment is built like Bam Bam.
cheers
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Just looking for some information on which Perth schools have the best rugby program or at least the best history... it's for my boy who at the moment is built like Bam Bam.
cheers
Well i would have to say atm Hale, Aranmore and Trinity would be your best options ... Although history says that Trinity is the best. The old First XV coach Ken Sass led the boys to 78 wins from 80 games. He also led the Trinity rugby community to 7 seven consecutive years winning all games from years 8 threw 12. He now coaches the year 9's i think and has those boys going well. The First XV is now coached by Jerry Scott. He coached Uni Prems or still does im not sure but yeah hes in control of them.
Hale has won the comp for the past four years and has good representation in the National Talent Squad. There rugby program is strong but im a trinity Old boy an i must say Trinity is the place to go. The last time i played Hale we put 50 points on them and they came second in the comp :)
Aranmore is also a good rugby school . They traditionally were a leauge School but have now converted and recently took out the John Welbourne Cup. They have also had many Aus Schoolboys league players come from them. I think Pugsy Coaches there first XV
thanks jb... being a mick, Trinity may be the go.
Wesley College:) produced Adam Wallace-Harrison and from the last few years have produced some excellant players - Matt Suter, Callum Saure, and Billy-J-Cooper. Currently with first 15 coach Dwayne Nestor and Head of rugby current Wests player Leon Felton...
Aranmore, and Hale is the best PSA rugby school.
pruc, ... the hyphen is in town as we speak.. good to see a few schools are big on rugby
Nah mate, go Scotch. Scotch has a fairly good reputation in rugby. But they've also got a good balance between academic and sports. You don't put a kid in school only mainly based on how good their rugby program is. In scotch, you can be sure that your kid has a good education and yet still have a good sports program.
Trinity is more of a football school. And speaking of famous players, Scotch produced the only WA born-and-bred Western Force player/Wallaby, John Welborn. So if you're truly a force fan, go Scotch. Plus they've got 2 Rugbywa development officers plus the state schoolboys head coach in their coaching staff.
We all about dropping names :)
im pretty sure trinity has one fo the leading astrology departments and technology centres in WA. We have also been the only school to produce 2 Austrailian School Boy rugby players !
1. adam wallace-harrison will rep aus soon.Quote:
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2. wesley have 2 development officers, 1 ex school boys coach, 3 schoolboys players as coachs, there headmaster.
3. wesley dont give sports scholarships. so most players on the field are fairly smart.
4. a true force fan wouldnt go for just any school, a true force fan would go for the team they have a connection with.
Hale is by far the leading rugby school in WA. Our head coach Steve McFarland was in charge of the Western Force Academy; but decided to return to Hale to coach our 1st team and to teach History. He is also the 1st grade coach of Soaks. Ben Lindeegard a former Western Force Academy member takes the 10A's. Hale have been represented well in the past years at state schoolboy level and will most certainly do so in the years to come. Our first team has won the cup for the last few years and I would put everything on them to bring it home again this year.
The thread topic says "best rugby school" so talk of academics are irrelevant. Anyways Hale is the top PSA school as accoriding to the last couples of years TEE results.
You mean you can get a scholarship for rugby, how good's that ? Who offers them ? Hale obviously..
i dont wont to get to involved in this but im sure the rugby clubs and familys do alot more then the schools do to develop players. the schools cant take much credit for the profesinal players is what im trying to say
they can in wallace-harrisons case. the headmster at the time didnt allow him to change from footy to rugby. look what happened since he didnt swap codes. but that is a true point. clubs do alot more developing players and the schools take the credit.
No PSA school gives scholarships for sport.Quote:
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I personally would have said Hale would be the strongest PSA rugby school, and for as long as I can remember always has been.
Aranmore give Rugby scholarships and I would say they would be the best rugby in Western Australia. Yet they are a bunch of idiots. Because they get scholarships for Rugby. (I'd know, they make up my Club)
Scotch certainly does have plenty of people in the know with a few RugbyWA representative coaches. Even the headmaster has played representative rugby. Scotch also produced the ONLY Western Australian Wallaby. Yet I would not suggest Scotch as being the best Rugby school in the metro area.
agreed beaver. hale for as long as i can remember is the best rugby school. and aranmore is the best in WA.
I've been away from the system too long to say anything than the parochial "Go Scotch" however, I would say that every school has its day and, while the lads who are currently in the PSA may only remember Hale winning, that isn't the end of the story.
Prior to that Trinity came from the Rugby wilderness in 1991 to take the title for several years off Scotch, who had had a very strong few years ('89-'90 undefeated etc) and prior to that it was always Guildford and Aquinas at the top of the log and daylight second back into the early 80's.
Flame may recall beyond that but I seem to recall from looking at the Redmond in '90 that it was Guildford, Aquinas and Scotch with the most victories to that point.
Might be a handy little task for Shaun to see if he can access the trophy cabinet and take down the names.
I do remember in one of the Scotch Old Boys newsletters a history of the Redmond Cup, I may have it somewhere.
Anyway, while Hale is certainly the dominant Rugby School currently (and for some time), the nature of PSA competitions is an ebb and flow between the Colleges where only a handful of boys can change the outcome against the favourites.
If in '90 you had said that Guildford would be crap at Rugby in 2007 (as indicated elsewhere, I don't know that my self) I would have laughed at you because they were always in the mix.
I do agree with gotheforce though, there are far bigger issues to consider than just the Rugby program when picking a school....there's the Rowing program too :D
Kidding, Scotch has a fantastic approach to all facets of education and any male kids of mine that I know of will be going there....evetually.
I'm with you there Burgs.
I'm sure Hale is prob the best PSA rugby school at the moment. Not every school will win the Redmond Cup, but every school has the potential to produce good players.
And its really up to the players whether how badly they want to improve. You may have someone like Kurtley Beale in your team, but you still might not win the cup or be the best team. Likewise, you can have a really good player in your team, but if he doesn't want to improve, then you can't help it.
I'm sure every school produces good players. Even Guildford has produced Cruz Ah Nau, prob the best forward in the PSA at the moment. But as Burgs said and as i mentioned earlier, there are much larger factors to choosing a school for your kid than rugby. And i would definately send any kids of mine to Scotch for its balance.
I don't know about it now. But back when i was in school, and that's only 3 years ago, PSA schools did offer scholarships to rugby players. They gave out 'Music Scholarships' to good rugby players who could prob only play a single tune on the guitar. I've got a friend who got one.Quote:
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Originally Posted by pruc
I doubt Wallace-Harrison will rep Aus this year though. His best argument for making the squad would be his versatility, but other than that, I don't think we'll see him in the world cup this year.
And if you really want to drop names for coaches, as Mtbeaver mentioned, Scotch has 2 development officers, 1 current School boys coach, the Headmaster's a former rep player( his son's a current rep player i think), an U19 current international player, 2 schoolboys players as coaches. And just for the kicks of it, its a multiracial mix of coaches, with south africans, irish, NZ, English, Singaporean and of course, Australian. So in a way, the players get a good mix of rugby from everywhere.
I wondered what all that "music scholarships" stuff was about. :iconrofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gotheforce
Aaaaahhh, the memories....
I was a Guildford man myself and we shared the Redmond Cup with Hale in 1980. The team we had then was basically the same team we'd had since Year 8, so we were a well-drilled, well-oiled machine...
Having said that, GGS seems not to be all that strong these days. They have some school policy about "academia". Dunno what that's all about but I can't see that concept lasting. I mean, I ask you, who goes to school to learn stuff - other than sports?
Currently being in the PSA and going to Aquinas the difference between schools is very minimal. Hale are the outstanding team with 5 NTS players but other than that its pretty even. As shown by the results this year the comp is very unpredictable.
The PSA schools are good rugby schools, agreed. Not one of them would beat Aranmore though......