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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    I think Wells is a hard one. There appear to be so many undefinables there that makes the team perform better when he's on the park, despite not looking up to scratch in what he brings to the table.

    By the sound of Masibakas contract it would be wise/possible to lure him back, but I'm not convinced that should be at the expense of a player who clearly brings a lot of experience and leadership to the young forwards.

    He might be our new Ian Prior
    I think he is having a much better season this year than last; perhaps it's shedding the skipper role and assuming the VC; he clearly holds a very high personal standard and struggled to hide his disappointment/ dissatisfaction in some post-match interviews for the Rebels and the Force. From some of the interviews on the podcast, etc., the lads pick him as one of the hardest hitters in the full-contact practices. He's been involved in a few trys and bagged a couple himself, would like to see them keep him on as I reckon he drives that standard in training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernow View Post
    I rather thought that Alex went to Montpellier on a 3 year deal as part of the alliance they were investigating a couple of seasons ago. He was in their academy and looks to have been loaned (or perhaps even transferred) now. He's a big unit and has had some great games fro Soyaux.
    Could well be mate, purely working off what I could find in all.rugby listing (2024 stated) and Wikipedia for Club (Academy listed).
    People in WA scene may well have better knowledge of the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    As in hanging around filling a Squad spot "in case"?
    34 in Scrumhalf is probably younger than 32 ('25 Season) in Backrow years.
    Yeah, well injury cover is a requirement in a modern sporting team.

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    Is Anstee injured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Is Anstee injured?
    No he has been warming up with the team most weeks, so is probably just sitting outside the 23 at the moment.

    Harris, Princep, Tizzano, Wells have the back row tied up at the moment, and Williams, Rodda, Fiafua (with Carter, Franklin) ahead in the locking position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzmania View Post
    No he has been warming up with the team most weeks, so is probably just sitting outside the 23 at the moment.

    Harris, Princep, Tizzano, Wells have the back row tied up at the moment, and Williams, Rodda, Fiafua (with Carter, Franklin) ahead in the locking position.
    Agree with Princep and Tizzano having 7 & 8 sewn up. But I haven't been overly impressed with Harris.
    TBH I was hoping for a bit more from him after all the fanfare when he signed. More than happy to be proved wrong down the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFDom View Post
    But I haven't been overly impressed with Harris.TBH I was hoping for a bit more from him after all the fanfare when he signed. More than happy to be proved wrong down the line
    If you have a look at my stats each match you may be pleasantly surprised, he is a quiet achiever.

    Also remember he is only 23 years old and still growing into his role, and thats why he only plays 50 to 60 minutes each match.

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    I thought Harris was going well at 8 before injury, and think he should be switched back there. He's a stronger ball carrier than Prinsep, who has shown too much of a tendency to lose the ball in contact. Prinsep is a workhorse, so well suited to 6.
    I'd also be looking to squeeze Anstee in on the bench at the expense of Wells. Anstee is more versatile, has way more upside and needs minutes on the field.
    Do agree that Wells has been going alright though. His leadership is needed at times, but we should have that covered now with Rodda, White, Williams, KB and Stewart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiraag View Post
    I thought Harris was going well at 8 before injury, and think he should be switched back there. He's a stronger ball carrier than Prinsep, who has shown too much of a tendency to lose the ball in contact. Prinsep is a workhorse, so well suited to 6.
    I'd also be looking to squeeze Anstee in on the bench at the expense of Wells. Anstee is more versatile, has way more upside and needs minutes on the field.
    Do agree that Wells has been going alright though. His leadership is needed at times, but we should have that covered now with Rodda, White, Williams, KB and Stewart.
    I think this selection headache is what Cron has been looking for - hopefully, Tim is hungry enough to fight his way back into the 23.

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    I'd be hoping for something like the following for 2025 (only 37 listed and not considering Rebel players contracted beyond 2024):

    Props: 7
    Pearce
    Hancock
    Hoopert
    Robinson
    Amone?
    Tauakipulu?
    Eloff?

    Hookers: 3
    Paenga-Amosa
    Dolly
    Horton

    Locks: 6
    Swain
    Rodda?
    Carter?
    Faifua?
    Kalapu
    Williams

    Loose: 5
    Harris
    Prinsep?
    Anstee?
    Tizzano
    Callan?


    Halfback: 3
    White
    Fines-Leleiwasa
    Robertson

    10: 3
    Donaldson
    Burey
    Pasitoa

    Outside: 10
    Stewart?
    Kuenzle
    Jooste?
    Potter
    O’Donnell
    Poolman
    Petaia?
    Tiatia?
    Leahy
    Beale?

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    Listening to Kurtley talking on field last night with Morgan. Morgan pushed him on signing for next year, Kurtley politely non-committal when pushed multiple times. Thought Kurtley dealt with it professionally, however got the feeling it’s a no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transiting View Post
    I'd be hoping for something like the following for 2025 (only 37 listed and not considering Rebel players contracted beyond 2024):

    Props: 7
    Pearce
    Hancock
    Hoopert
    Robinson
    Amone?
    Tauakipulu?
    Eloff?

    Hookers: 3
    Paenga-Amosa
    Dolly
    Horton

    Locks: 6
    Swain
    Rodda?
    Carter?
    Faifua?
    Kalapu
    Williams

    Loose: 5
    Harris
    Prinsep?
    Anstee?
    Tizzano
    Callan?


    Halfback: 3
    White
    Fines-Leleiwasa
    Robertson

    10: 3
    Donaldson
    Burey
    Pasitoa

    Outside: 10
    Stewart?
    Kuenzle
    Jooste?
    Potter
    O’Donnell
    Poolman
    Petaia?
    Tiatia?
    Leahy
    Beale?
    What’s the go with Koteka, he actually signed a 3 year contract in 2022 so that includes next year, or did the force actually terminate his contract? I think he can return soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandgroperrugby View Post
    Listening to Kurtley talking on field last night with Morgan. Morgan pushed him on signing for next year, Kurtley politely non-committal when pushed multiple times. Thought Kurtley dealt with it professionally, however got the feeling it’s a no.
    I got the distinct feeling it's a "nothing decided yet" which could mean several things.

    1 I want to stay, but the Force haven't made any moves yet.
    2 The Force want me to stay but I'm still open to offers
    3 We both want me here but the negotiations between agent and recruiter aren't done yet
    4 Neither of us want it but we're keeping our options open
    5 I'm already signed for a job in Japan but I can't announce it yet

    TBH the whole piece was Mr Randwick Turinui shilling his clubmate to the world by talking about a contract when, in reality, hes a 37 year old back on an injury cover contract for a younger guy who is AT LEAST his equal. I'm not convinced we want Kurtley for the same reasons as Kurtley would want to be here, he'll sit the bench or in the stands until somebody's hurt and that doesn't strike me as a Beale kind of gig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Owen View Post
    What’s the go with Koteka, he actually signed a 3 year contract in 2022 so that includes next year, or did the force actually terminate his contract? I think he can return soon?
    I get the impression he is busting a gut to get back in the squad. I think it was clear the positive was from a supplement his housemate was taking. I’d imagine he’ll have to earn his stripes at club level but the lad is as hard as nails - I’d love to think he’s still in with a decent chance of pulling a jersey on again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    I got the distinct feeling it's a "nothing decided yet" which could mean several things.

    1 I want to stay, but the Force haven't made any moves yet.
    2 The Force want me to stay but I'm still open to offers
    3 We both want me here but the negotiations between agent and recruiter aren't done yet
    4 Neither of us want it but we're keeping our options open
    5 I'm already signed for a job in Japan but I can't announce it yet

    TBH the whole piece was Mr Randwick Turinui shilling his clubmate to the world by talking about a contract when, in reality, hes a 37 year old back on an injury cover contract for a younger guy who is AT LEAST his equal. I'm not convinced we want Kurtley for the same reasons as Kurtley would want to be here, he'll sit the bench or in the stands until somebody's hurt and that doesn't strike me as a Beale kind of gig.
    I got the impression that nothing has been decided yet, as Cronno said, his missus has a big say in that and they have more important things on their mind with bub #2 arriving this week. I’d be the first to admit I wasn’t thrilled by the announcement, but from the outside glimpsing in he appears to have made an incredibly positive contribution. JT and Richard Kahn made a huge contribution with their rugby IQ and it looks like KB is doing the same. With such a young squad I think KB would be able to accelerate several players development.

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