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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    forgive me for not bothering to let google be my friend and do my own research, but isn't the "development" player meant to be of a calibre that they can play for wallabies when they qualify? So Sias for instance played consistently for Cheetahs and was considered an international prospect until Goosen and Jantjes arrived on the scene. But I've never even heard of Jayden, and he has not held down a spot in S15.

    Doesn't mean I think he's no good, he might be just what I've been rabbiting on about as a passing 12, merely a question about the nature of the "development" slot
    Mike Harris was in a worse position ie no super rugby before coming over to oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandgroperrugby View Post
    Mike Harris was in a worse position ie no super rugby before coming over to oz.
    He was not brought over as a development player as he had an aus grandmother so no need to get it pass the ARU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha Handy View Post
    I also thought the ARU had to sign off that the player had the potential to become a wallaby or something along those lines. Didn't someone get knocked back last year that we tried to sign? Maybe they have decided to stop holding us back
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    Iirc it has something to do with filling gaps in the national sense as well. I think the one that was knocked back was in a position that the wallabies had plenty of depth.

    I'd say 12 is pretty skinny all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha Handy View Post
    I also thought the ARU had to sign off that the player had the potential to become a wallaby or something along those lines. Didn't someone get knocked back last year that we tried to sign? Maybe they have decided to stop holding us back
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    We tried to sign a hooker from North Harbour, he even came over here for a week to trial with us but the ARU said no. In the end it turned out best for us after getting Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAFFA View Post
    He was not brought over as a development player as he had an aus grandmother so no need to get it pass the ARU
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    I was more referring to the quality of the player that bison was alluding to not the contract issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by todd4 View Post
    We tried to sign a hooker from North Harbour, he even came over here for a week to trial with us but the ARU said no. In the end it turned out best for us after getting Charles.
    James Parsons. It wasn't so much an ARU issue. The problem was that he'd signed a contract with North Harbour and didn't realise that he would need to stay in Australia during the ITM Cup to meet the residency requirements for the foreign development player. Parsons debuted for the Blues this year.

    We did do better out of Nathan Charles, but he came in mid season and it would have been good to have had someone from day 1.

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    I welcome him as a player,having watched him on Fox playing for Taranaki this year.I only hope the management don't have to explain the Force's "don't steal from your teammates policy" after the Willie Ripia debacle

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    It must be true, Nick Taylor's published it

    October 27, 2012, Nick Taylor The West Australian

    Taranaki centre Jayden Hayward is being touted as the final signing for the Western Force for the 2013 Super Rugby season.

    The Force have one spot left in their senior squad of 30 and are expected to use it for their second overseas development player.

    A Force spokesman said the specialist No.12 had not signed with the club but reports from New Zealand say he has asked for a release from his New Zealand Rugby Union contract.

    The reports say he told team-mates he was leaving after Taranaki lost their ITM Cup semi-final to Canterbury in extra time last Saturday.

    The 25-year-old has a year left on his contract with Super Rugby side the Hurricanes and the Force would need permission from the Australian Rugby Union to add him to their squad.

    Hayward has made 59 consecutive appearances for Taranaki and joined the Hurricanes in 2011 after two years with the Highlanders. In his first year he made 11 appearances but spent most of last season as a bench player.

    If he does sign for the Force he will join South African playmaker Sias Edersohn and fellow Kiwi, Auckland Blues scrum-half Alby Mathewson, as the club's three overseas players. Former All Black Mathewson is the marquee signing.
    Mathewson will be hoping to end his career with Auckland on a winning note today when he farewells the club in the ITM final against Canterbury.

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    Only says he's being "touted". Let's wait and see.

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    I may just have caught a wee glimpse of a smart board with his name on it whilst up at RWA HQ Friday arvo.......It was listed under the heading, "13 new signings for 2013"

    I also recall Murray Mexted talking him up big time a couple of years ago on Tele.......lets hope hes the goods for the Force
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    1 look at the Hurricanes Profile Page by the ARU and they wont approve JH from signing.

    Wish - All Blacks,

    But in 46 games in the NPC / ITM Cup he's scored 18 tries.. not bad going !!

    With SBW Clone and him in the centres, Cummins out wide with Mafi @ FB we have a leathel outside backline.

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    Hello Benny,
    Could you just run that past us again. I can't quite follow your point.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political BS View Post
    Hello Benny,
    Could you just run that past us again. I can't quite follow your point.
    Thanks.
    His wish is to play for the all blacks, if the force want to sign him then he will be a development player. with the view he will play for the wallabies one day so when the ARU see his profile they will see his wish and reject the offer.

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