Answers to the exodus

[mudskipper]

If you're sincerely looking for “Answers to stop the player exodus”.... The Force in reality needs to reinvent its self post 2009... If this can't be done by a marquee signing I would recommend looking for a new Coach... This message will give the Force fresh appeal to potential players and established... This might not be popular but it has to be seriously considered…

It’s important to remember, Talent is not as rare as opportunity…... the talent is out there... The Force just needs to gain their trust…

[hertryk]

I think we've made our best moves with the fringes, and undeveloped talent. Look at Bam, he was a junior when we signed him. We developed him, he's pretty much ours...That mightn't stop him gettign poached, but he'll repay the loyalty. I want more of that. Shep, the same....maybe we need to look at the quality of the man before giving spots to gouys who aren't getting game time.....Maybe we need to start looking in our own backyard earlier than is wise and put up with some lean seasons

Unfortunately there are too many "fair weather fans" out there that will only back a "winning" team...we need the bums on seats to keep us going. Therefore I reckon we need a couple at least of "audience pullers" to keep us alive....

[shasta]

I would recommend looking for a new Coach...

It’s important to remember, Talent is not as rare as opportunity…... the talent is out there... The Force just needs to gain their trust…

Why would you get rid of a coach who has brought through as much talent as Mitchell if your second statement is correct? Most of the ones he's developed seem to be staying so far. The exodus is mainly older players and the Firepower losers.

[mudskipper]

Why would you get rid of a coach who has brought through as much talent as Mitchell if your second statement is correct? Most of the ones he's developed seem to be staying so far. The exodus is mainly older players and the Firepower losers.

If he continues to bring in good new talent in, then leave things as is... if things stall and numbers of quality players don't come to the Force... then its got to be on the cards...

[GIGS20]

He was here when Fairbrother signed!

[The Ethicist]

A wishful thinking[URL="http://twf.com.au/showthread.php?t=21623"] this thread looks and smells like bullshit.

Why so?
Perhaps I should have said if Valentine leaves?

[mudskipper]

He was here when Fairbrother signed!

Fairbrother is a good signing and backed by Deans which is great for the Force... But more is needed... forwards and backs...

[.X.]

Why so?
Perhaps I should have said if Valentine leaves?

Asked and answered your own question.

[Cookie]

What you need is a professional enviroment where the players are happy and well looked after.You also need a happy team environment,where everybody gets along.

The lifestyle in Perth is also an attraction,but I still think that you need a strong support crew and strong management team that will give the players confidence to stick around.

[TommyM]

Getting back to the possibility of Valentine potentially signing with the Brumbies, there is no way the they could hope to hold onto him, Holmes and Phibbs surely....

As Mudskipper suggested, perhaps Phibbs might go North for $. What is Holmes' situation? I'm sure he's not been happy about sharing the 9 role this year, and would be especially unhappy to be relieved of it by an incoming Vanlentine. He moved there on the back of his outstanding ARC (sigh) form and I think expected to be the regular starting 9- he's an excellent young talent, and already not in his home town I think in ACT. Force option?

[qld supporter]

I think you'll find Holmes will be cut and Phibbs kept, if Phibbs decides playing 2nd string S14 is more attractive than big $ [ his form has also been better 2009] . I know that the Brumbies have withdrawn a recent offer to Josh and I don't think he's keen to be on the bench anyway and is weighing up his options.A lot of the deck chair shuffling will depend on what Sheehan does, any of these guys can earn better $ overseas and father time is catching up with a couple of them.

[mudskipper]

Getting back to the possibility of Valentine potentially signing with the Brumbies, there is no way the they could hope to hold onto him, Holmes and Phibbs surely....

As Mudskipper suggested, perhaps Phibbs might go North for $. What is Holmes' situation? I'm sure he's not been happy about sharing the 9 role this year, and would be especially unhappy to be relieved of it by an incoming Vanlentine. He moved there on the back of his outstanding ARC (sigh) form and I think expected to be the regular starting 9- he's an excellent young talent, and already not in his home town I think in ACT. Force option?

Holmes is talent just hasn't delivered yet... I hope he stays at the Brumbies... But he may go, Friend isn't just going to give him the 9 jersey, he has to compete for it... He has had more starts than Phibbs but mostly they've played about 50/30 ratio....

I think Holmes would click with Giteau...

[slomo]

If you're sincerely looking for “Answers to stop the player exodus”.... The Force in reality needs to reinvent its self post 2009... If this can't be done by a marquee signing I would recommend looking for a new Coach... This message will give the Force fresh appeal to potential players and established... This might not be popular but it has to be seriously considered…

hard not to agree with that statement 'skipper, i asked the question months ago about the relationship JM has with the players, in relation to senior players wanting to move on, start afresh next season new coach, new stadium, new team.....

[laura]

Could Josh Holmes come to Perth? He has family here, he would be getting regular game time (hopefully competing every week with CO'Y to ensure we have the most in form scrummie each week) and he has the chance to develop and flourish. We should make a move on getting him while he's young (he's 22). Phibbs has 6 years on Holmes and Sheehan has 8 years. We want a young scrummie whose head is screwed on right but still has his best years in front of him.

[Darren]

we had one of them in James Stannard - but his contract wasn't renewed by the Force and he was apparently picked up by the Brumbies (not that you'd know it with the amount of game time he had)