Hapless Force sink deeper into the quicksand they're built on

[Swee_82]

Even with the dropping membership we still outnumber all the other Australian Super 14teams don't we?

I think our 10,000+ outnumbers all other S14 teams.

[blueandblack]

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That started over Kevin Pieterson wanting Michael Vaugh selected for a tour and it went downhill from when he wasn't selected. How is this applicable to the Force?

Says more about Connolly.

[James]

I think our 10,000+ outnumbers all other S14 teams.

I think so. Since writing that I also noted that we crossed 10,000 a bit before Christmas so with a few late renewals from the slow coaches we should be looking good. Do I need to cough Jargs?

[jargan83]

Do I need to cough Jargs?

How many times do I need to post that I am renewing on Jan 22nd. You can all start rejoicing on Thursday

[James]

How many times do I need to post that I am renewing on Jan 22nd. You can all start rejoicing on Thursday

Will do. And if I do ever end up meeting you in person I'll buy you a beer.

[mudskipper]

i don't know about that, possibly equal worst lets not forget eddie jones equal longest losing streak ...

However at least Eddie Jones got to the RWC final...

[mudskipper]

SWE-82...What's with slagging off Greg Harris- that membership decline happened on O'Meara's watch and was was partly inevitable (novelty factor /honeymoon period wearing off) and alot of the rest is directly attributable to the latter point- which Harris and the board are making moves towards rectifying. Maybe Knuckles has something against a NSWelshman in the job.


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Do you think local membership declined because of the Firepower scam? very bloody likely I’d think...

The media should give Greg Harris a fair go before putting him to the sword...

[blueandblack]

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Do you think local membership declined because of the Firepower scam? very bloody likely I’d think...
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BS. Its because of the POS stadium we play at..but only for one more season thank god.

[The Lone Hydrangea]

Firepower has got bugger all to do with it, not even close. Subi is shite... end of story.

[mudskipper]

Firepower has got bugger all to do with it, not even close. Subi is shite... end of story.

I agree subi is not suitable... but people loathe lies and firepower was a biggy... wherever the collective responsibilities fall…

That’s one of things that really infuriates me it damaged the fledgling club...I’ll never buy it didn’t…sorry...

[laura]

No one is denying it did damage to the club but its affect on membership is insignificant compared to Subi Oval. The damage was financial in terms of their sponsorship to the club & players, they weren't paying us to attend the games so really we dont have much of an axe to grind with them. They screwed over the team not the fans (unless fans were investors & got screwed over but that was their choice to invest their funds, the Force didn't make them invest therefore have no reason to dislike the Force because they lost money).

[travelling_gerry]

The Quokka incident and Left Bank did more damage then Firepower.

Members started dropping off as soon as they went to Subi for the first time.

They got to their seats, said "this is crap" and went home or to pubs and watched it on Fox.

The Firepower factor is only big in your mind.

[James]

Its the title of Connolly's article that makes me laugh the most. If the Force wasn't built on 'quicksand' how exactly should it have been built? Wherever a new franchise cropped up it would have been a slap dash job not one that has developed over 100 years (and still isn't performing). You can't say the franchise should've gone somewhere else because there is clearly the support for it here.

[mudskipper]

Even with the dropping membership we still outnumber all the other Australian Super 14teams don't we? Last I heard we were over 10,000 which is what the Brumbies usually get and they're the next best and they've been a highly successful team.

Have John's beloved Reds not been hapless for the last few years? Had he not left of his own volition would Eddie Jones have not been in a similar situation as John Mitchell?

Taking cheap shots at someone/something while they are down just makes you look cheap.

knuckles Reds have been poorly managed... no wonder their players sign with other provinces..

[travelling_gerry]

knuckles Reds have been poorly managed... no wonder their players sign with other provinces..

ergo, the players that signed with the came from other poorly managed provinces?