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Where’s Andy Marinos in this ….. Is there YET another egotistical cockup brewing in RA ……. And the losers are ……. YEP !!
Let's not get carried away too soon here. This is obviously a play to earn a better dividend from broadcast rights. Probably not an equal share. Just a better one. I'd expect nothing less. The most inflammatory comments in that video were from (no surprise) John Kirwan who said (paraphrasing) look at the NRL & the AFL; they are thriving, the NRL is fantastic.....they (RA) are struggling now - to get back where they need to be.....so, what they want some of OUR money (Sky TV)? Don't they need to do their own TV deal?
Basically he and his mates are outraged that RA has the gall to challenge the NZRU; obviously blind to the years of arrogance from their side of the ditch. They were quite happy for a form of "dividend equalisation" to operate right through the period when the bulk of telecast money was chipped in from ZA. But not now; despite (sort of) acknowledging the difficulties in the Oz sports market. And despite their pleas of "needing to grow together". I think a lot of them just don't really grasp that the NZ sporting landscape is the exception rather than the rule. Or they are still shitty about JON (and probably Wayne Barnes).
"The main difference between playing League and Union is that now I get my hangovers on Monday instead of Sunday - Tom David
Honestly, I hope the Japanese are watching closely, taking notes, and similarly insist on separate broadcast deals in any future involvement. Would have made a massive difference to the Sunwolves, so if the rules have changed, hope they insist on a 'sauce for the goose' approach from here on...
The obvious and immediate rebuttal to Sir John would be,
yes but the AFL and the NRL both run domestic only competitions, that's why RA are looking to match that model.
and to not acknowledge that NZRU were quite happy to take their fair share of the Rand on offer indicates just how fair an even handed the comment is.
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Not sure if this is the correct thread.
Money is needed to run any sports enterprise in todays cut throat world with tons of content out there.
We are blessed to have Philanthropists like Nicola and Andrew Forrest to help us start again.
If ARU thinks that getting private investment and "gaslighting" people into believing just how good they are and that investments will just be rolling in they are kidding themselves.
Private investment is frought with danger, just look at the Perth Wildcats current situation.
Run as a philanthropists (The Late Jack Bendat) project, they had a great culture, an incredible finals history and were the pride of Perth. Now within a year of getting a private investment (non Perth based), they miss their first finals, lose their CEO and today the coach of one year resigns.
Careful what you wish for........
Simon Cron: “People talk about winning and losing all the time and they are critical, but there’s a process to get into and it’s the ability to stay present, do your job and execute skills under pressure.”
Out of Curiosity.
Who believes that we would have a better comp without the Kiwi Teams?
Can we set up this thread with a Poll?
TG or Darren- or the Thread Author Todd4?
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"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It’s a very mean and nasty place and I don’t care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain’t about how hard ya hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done! Now if you know what you’re worth then go out and get what you’re worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain’t where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain’t you! You’re better than that!" - Rocky Balboa
Maybe need a definition of 'better'...
If RA have their way, we may also need a confirmed definition of 'competition'
Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon
As I see the problem: We don't want less than 5 teams. It is not in our interests to have less. New Zealand doesn't want more than 5. It might not be commercially viable (who knows). Australia with 5 teams in the current climate is always likely to struggle against NZ with 5 teams. There aren't the structures in place (e.g. NRC) to change that any time soon. So, Super Rugby with NZ is a competition but it isn't a COMPETITION. That's not sustainable and would do more to harm us than going it alone. Maybe threatening to do that will net concessions from NZ to make things work- even if just one more NZ team to spread their talent a bit.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
Whatever happened to all the revenue sharing that NZ wanted from the European unions from All Black test matches played over there? Did that ever come to fruition?
Japan and the Pacific Islands for Aussie Super 9's!
Let's have one of these in WA! Click this link: Saitama Super Arena - New Perth Stadium?
It seems like the ugg boot is on the other foot
Japan and the Pacific Islands for Aussie Super 9's!
Let's have one of these in WA! Click this link: Saitama Super Arena - New Perth Stadium?
https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/...-mclennan-says
He makes some good points about NZ blowing up when they only wanted a two year deal with us anyway. Is RA supposed to wait for NZ to say whether they want to renew or change it before they are allowed to look at options?