Karmichael Hunt

[TOCC]

so im pretty sure we have blown muddies 'choir boy brumbies' theory out of the water, they are just like every other professional rugby side with players who make mistakes..

Getting back to the original topic, the Brumbies would definetly sign Hunt if they had the chance.

[mudskipper]

so im pretty sure we have blown muddies 'choir boy brumbies' theory out of the water, they are just like every other professional rugby side with players who make mistakes..

Getting back to the original topic, the Brumbies would definetly sign Hunt if they had the chance.

TOCC.... No the Club handles it a hell of a lot better than others... back on topic I guess we'll see about Hunt. there was a meant the other day in an Times article refering to other backs signings that Giteau would be playing with in 2010... no names but sounded underway...

"I'd say George is only 50/50 at this stage," Fagan said.

"George is pretty excited by the future of the Brumbies. He can see the next couple of years being successful with the likes of Matt Giteau coming and who knows who else, plus the prospect of another World Cup is very appealing to him."

That’s very Fagan plays with his cards close to his chest... just makes small inferences... which usually mean action underway…

Do you think Hunt is worth signing?

[AndyS]

"No the Club handles it a hell of a lot better than others... "

Really?

So Palavi is arrested on three charges of obstructing, hindering, intimidating or resisting a commonwealth official, causing harm to a commonwealth law enforcement officer, and one of common assault - charges to which he later pleads guilty. And the Brumbies handle it by, wait for it, doing not a damn thing and allowing him to play. Nice message to the others.

Mind you, Palavi picked up a career ending injury in the game he was allowed to play. I wonder, did the Brumbies indeed organise a "better" way of handling the issue???

[jargan83]

That’s very Fagan plays with his cards close to his chest... just makes small inferences... which usually mean action underway…

Action Underway? It would not surprise me if all 4 Aussie Super Rugby clubs hadn't already sounded out Karmichael's manager

[mudskipper]

"No the Club handles it a hell of a lot better than others... "

Really?

So Palavi is arrested on three charges of obstructing, hindering, intimidating or resisting a commonwealth official, causing harm to a commonwealth law enforcement officer, and one of common assault - charges to which he later pleads guilty. And the Brumbies handle it by, wait for it, doing not a damn thing and allowing him to play. Nice message to the others.

Mind you, Palavi picked up a career ending injury in the game he was allowed to play. I wonder, did the Brumbies indeed organise a "better" way of handling the issue???

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...006784,00.html

He played in a trial match before he went to court. He didn't return to play as he was injured in the trial match. Additionally I believe he didn't disclose the incident to the club until he fronted court and the media picked it up, if I remember rightly... The Brumbies weren't happy about that... The neck injury ended his playing career. And they let him go professionally sighting his injury... I think it was handled well...with little media fuss... He was later found guilty and given 1000 bail with behavioural boundaries.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news...500138.aspxACT Brumbies hooker David Palavi was looking after his wounded younger brother when he clashed with police in Civic last month, a court heard yesterday.
Palavi, 27, is charged with one count of causing harm to a law enforcement officer; two counts of obstructing, hindering, intimidating or resisting a Commonwealth official, and one of causing harm to a law enforcement officer, arising from an incident in Civic on a Saturday night in December.

Another man, ACT Colts player John Kenneth Rowley, 19, of Burra, NSW, also appeared in court yesterday regarding the same incident.

In the ACT Magistrates Court, Palavi was also charged with assaulting a woman during an unrelated incident last September.

Tongan-born Palavi, at the Brumbies since 2003, has played 25 games for the club.

A former professional rugby league player, he switched to union in 1999 after two seasons with the Melbourne Storm.

The club has declined to comment on the matter until it is settled in court, and has not taken disciplinary action against Palavi.

Details of the pair's encounter with police emerged during Rowley's court appearance yesterday.

Rowley's defence counsel told the court that Palavi and his client had been out with Palavi's younger brother, John, that night.

The pair had noticed John near a Civic car park bleeding heavily from a gash on his arm, and had attempted to stem the bleeding.

Police arrived at the scene to find the pair agitated, not knowing that they were trying to help the injured man, who later required 17 stitches, defence counsel said.

[AndyS]

He was charged before the game, it was reported in the media on the 12/1 and the game was on the 20/1. The club knew about it before the 12th because
"The club has declined to comment on the matter until it is settled in court, and has not taken disciplinary action against Palavi."
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news...er/500138.aspx

It was certainly "handled" well. Some contrast to the howling in the media over anything that happens in Perth. By extension the correct response to quokka incidents and punches in pubs should have been "No comment, other than that absolutely no action will be taken against any player until the police have decided what they wish to do and any proceedings have been entirely played out".

Oh yeah, that would have just been the end of it right there....

[Burgs]

Just ask the Eagles on that one Andy

[TOCC]

TOCC.... No the Club handles it a hell of a lot better than others...

hmm, well looking at the past incidents involving brumbies players, i cant see how it does.

I cant remember the last time a Reds player was busted, im sure there has been some, but none off the top of my head. Elton Flatley rocked up to a wallaby match hungover/late? down in Melbourne back in 2001 or 2002

[mudskipper]

do you have this weeks lotto numbers mud?

Yes.......can I sell you a copy....

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Karmichael Hunt bound for Japanese rugby


BRISBANE Broncos fullback Karmichael Hunt is on the verge of switching codes, with former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones confirming he has had talks with the Origin and Kangaroos star over a move to Japanese rugby union.

Jones, who is an adviser to Japanese club Suntory, has held informal talks with Hunt's management and plans to step up negotiations when he returns to Japan in the next fortnight.

The news comes only days after the Broncos terminated contract talks with Hunt. Brisbane pulled out of negotiations after Hunt failed to accept a three-year deal with the club worth more than $1million.

Since then, Hunt - who played rugby union at high school - has spoken publicly of his desire to explore his options elsewhere, including rugby union both here and abroad.

Jones appears ready to pounce. The former Saracens coach has been a longtime admirer of Hunt, having spoken publicly of his belief that he would make a successful transition to the rival code.

While the change of scenery would be a challenge for Hunt it would be a lucrative move given he is also in talks with French rugby union clubs over the prospect of playing in that country when the NRL season comes to an end.

Under the audacious plan being explored by Hunt's management, the Queensland and Australia fullback would go straight to France when his Broncos commitments are over. He would then join Suntory when the Japanese rugby union season begins in 2010.

The combined deals could be worth more than $800,000, although that figure would translate to more than $1million when tax breaks and allowances are included, an amount which would easily eclipse his potential earnings in the NRL.

"I don't get to Japan until next Sunday," Jones told The Weekend Australian from Denver, where he is visiting his former Wallabies assistant Scott Johnson.

"That's when I would say we will start to move things along. We'll definitely start chatting seriously. We're definitely keen on him, there's no doubt about that."

Jones, who envisages Hunt playing as a rugby union fullback or centre, insisted no deal had been struck with the 22-year-old.

Told the Broncos had withdrawn their offer, he replied: "Clubs pull deals when they want to put a bit of pressure on. I wouldn't say he's made up

his mind one way or the other." Asked how Hunt would handle a switch to Japanese rugby union, Jones suggested the change of culture wouldn't be a problem.

"He's a young bloke," he said. "He would be all right."

Any move to Suntory would be made easier by the presence of former Wallabies captain George Gregan and Kiwi Ryan Nicholas.

It is understood Hunt is negotiating on the basis that he will spend two years overseas before returning to Australia to play either with the Broncos or a Super 14 club. The confirmation of talks between Jones and Hunt came as no surprise to Brisbane chief executive Bruno Cullen.

"That was our understanding," Cullen said. "That's what K (Hunt) and his management team were holding out for."

Cullen made it clear Hunt would continue to hold his place in the Broncos side regardless of his decision.

"That would be up to the coach but I would think definitely not," Cullen said of the prospects of Hunt being dropped for switching codes.

"K is one of us. He's one of the team."

While the Broncos will continue to select Hunt, he risks forfeiting his place in the Queensland and Australian sides should he choose to switch codes.

Although he would still be contracted to rugby league until the end of this season, selectors have shown they prefer to look to the future when naming representative sides.

Mark Gasnier was overlooked for last year's World Cup after announcing he would join French club Paris St Germain while Lote Tuqiri lost his place in the Australian side after announcing his plans to join the NSW Waratahs in 2002.

Gasnier and Tuqiri played State of Origin those respective seasons, but only because they announced their intentions after the series had been played.

Australian Rugby League chief executive Geoff Carr confirmed Hunt would be considered for representative football. However, if he announces plans to switch codes, his position in the Maroons and Kangaroos sides would be placed in jeopardy.

"We can't not pick someone on suspicion," Carr said.

"If you are a rugby league player and you haven't made any arrangements to go to another code, you will be considered for selection. But the selectors have a history of not only picking the best players, but looking to the future.

"If a certain player is not going to be around, it's hardly a decision for the future if he's picked."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...015651,00.html

[travelling_gerry]

Top NRL players no longer on rugby union's radar, says Eddie Jones

By Eddie Jones
former Wallabies coach
March 21, 2009

When a good rugby league player came on to the market around the turn of the century, Super 12 teams would assess his suitability and ask the Australian Rugby Union for assistance if they felt the target was a goer.

At the Brumbies we signed Andrew Walker and Peter Ryan, two key players in the team's reign as one of Super 12's top four provincial teams for a five-year period.

Walker could sniff out a try and Ryan brought a work ethic and toughness that was contagious.

I still rate him as close to our best signing at that time - a wonderful team man.

Times roll on and change is inevitable. The credit crunch and changes in philosophy now mean top league players are no longer chased with any zeal.

Karmichael Hunt is a good example. Eight years ago, Super rugby sides would have been trampling over each other to sign him and John O'Neill would have seen it as a great opportunity to put one over our league cousins. However, this is now not the case.

Karmichael, who seems to have a genuine interest in playing the 15-a-side game, has had to look abroad to Japan.

At my club, Suntory, we are aiming to build a team that can compete globally. The top Japanese J-League football teams can do it, so we are chasing that dream.

Karmichael is 22, tough, talented and ambitious. He could play two years in Japan then head back to Australia and challenge for a Wallabies spot.

If he signs he will be well paid - nothing like the $1 million-a-season figure quoted in some sections of the Australian press - but well paid.

Income tax is less in Japan than Australia - that is not hard - and the Japanese look after their players well.

Suntory are keen. We already have a strong squad and Karmichael would be a special player.

Talking about good young players, Queensland Reds are moving in the right direction with their high-motion game.

What was impressive last week was the variation of their depth in attack - flattening when the ball was fast, a little deeper on slower ball.

Quade Cooper and Berrick Barnes interchanged nicely and their proactive kicking was a delight to watch.

Under the ELVs, kicking has become even more important, with the top four teams also being the highest-kicking teams.

Again, this begs the question - have the ELVs been successful in producing a better game?

If the Reds continue to play to their strengths, kick to space and work hard they can earn a mid-table finish.

Hugh McMeniman, Digby Ioane and Leroy Houston are the key players they must keep on the paddock with Berrick and Quade.

I fancy the Irish to celebrate a Grand Slam triumph in the Six Nations this weekend. Wales rely too heavily on the individual brilliance of Shane Williams and Lee Byrne, who both seem a little off their best.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...002381,00.html

[jargan83]

Walker could sniff out a try

That wasn't the only thing Walker could sniff out
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[jargan83]

just heard on the radio that Karmichael won't be getting an ARU top up
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[TOCC]

hmm, well if he backs himself to make the wallabies he could still sign with one of the unions and then hope he gets games for the wallabies and gets the match fees..

[mudskipper]

hmm, well if he backs himself to make the wallabies he could still sign with one of the unions and then hope he gets games for the wallabies and gets the match fees..

No walk ups please, players have to compete for a Wallabies jerseys… Hunt can sign with a club and compete for a starting jersey there…

There are a few who missed last years Wallabies squad in the backs who will be pushing for a spot in the larger squad. Such as Horne, Gerrard and Valentine…

Cam Shepherd could miss out if he has continued injury concerns... and there will be others... No Australia A this year its Wallabies or Zero... There are definitely a few young guys pushing for jerseys and someone will miss out...

[Burgs]

One of the Unions that has access to strong sponsorship potential I guess.