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    Sydney clubs ready to trial Twenty20 rugby

    Greg Growden Chief Rugby Correspondent | May 26, 2009


    RUGBY'S version of cricket's Twenty20 - in which players leave the field during a game to create space and attacking opportunities - will be trialled soon at Sydney club level.

    Former Australian and NSW Rugby Union chairman Dilip Kumar is pushing the proposal and is organising two high-profile Sydney premiership clubs to play a trial of what has been termed Rugby's 20-13 in August, during the bye weekend in the Shute Shield competition. In the game, two players from each team would be excluded for a 20-minute period in each half.

    Former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones originally threw up the idea, as a 20-12 game, in a Brisbane newspaper column a few weeks ago where he explained that rugby spectators were desperate for a "quick fix similar to Twenty20 in cricket".

    "If you remember any game when two players have been sent to the sin bin from one team, the amount of space available to the non-offending team is immense," Jones wrote. "With one more body off, players would have more time and space to operate in attack, but in a structure that resembles a game of XVs. I'd still operate scrums and lineouts.

    "Think of it c 40 minutes of non-stop, fluid attack, two games at the one ground. Spectators would flock."

    Kumar thought the idea had great merit and immediately contacted other officials to see if there was any interest in it. He received a strong response, with many complaining how the code had become defence-orientated and that attacking football had been stifled through lack of space. He then contacted club officials to organise a game, from which all proceeds will go to a charity.

    It will still need some tinkering. Interest was higher in the 20-13 idea, with two rather than three players leaving the field for 20-minute stretches each half.

    "I think it is a brilliant idea, and well worth a trial to see if it actually works," Kumar said yesterday. "What we are thinking of doing during the trial match is even having power-plays, where the captain of each team decides on the field when exactly they play the 20 minutes per half with two less players. People are looking at change, and keep harking back to the last World Cup final in 2007 where no tries were scored. Why not attempt to make the game more entertaining c by enticing teams to attack and score tries."

    Organisers of the Wallabies-Barbarians match at the Sydney Football Stadium on June 6 are discovering interest in the game is growing by the day. The latest addition to the Barbarians, former Waratahs captain Chris Whitaker, will join his victorious Leinster Heineken Cup teammate Rocky Elsom against his national team. Whitaker, who was the halfback in Leinster's final win over Leicester at Murrayfield, has been called into the squad that also plays England at Twickenham this weekend following the withdrawal of French halfback Dmitri Yachvili.

    Whitaker will feel among friends at the Barbarians, joining his long-time Waratahs colleague Phil Waugh. Waugh was given permission by Wallabies coach Robbie Deans to play the two Barbarians matches, including the SFS fixture, before rejoining the Australian training squad for the June internationals against Italy and France. "I am encouraging Phil to play at only 75 per cent for the Barbarians when he is up against us, but I don't think he heard me," Deans said.

    Chiefs and All Blacks winger Sitiveni Sivivatu is expected to miss the Tri Nations series after dislocating his shoulder during the team's Super 14 semi-final triumph over the Hurricanes in Hamilton last Friday night. Sivivatu could be sidelined for up to six months. Crusaders halfback Andy Ellis is another bound to miss All Blacks selection with three fractured ribs.


    http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/n...103488351.html

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    WTF?!

    What's wrong with 10's rugby - just make it 10 minute quarters rather than halves. or you could have 20 minute halves, woith the year being 2010 next year, it has a ring to it ....

    13 players is an abomination

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    13 a side? That sounds vaguely familiar
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    Is this some kind of a leap year? Do we have two Aprils the first?

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    Kumar thought the idea had great merit and immediately contacted other officials to see if there was any interest in it. He received a strong response, with many complaining how the code had become defence-orientated and that attacking football had been stifled through lack of space.
    Must be a NSW problem, not just the Waawaatahs.

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    I jcan just about stomach Twenty20 cricket as a bit of fun (if I can ignore all the hoopla that comes with those games), but no, no, no, no, no, no, no...

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    But Twenty20 cricket has Cheerleaders

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    What about getting rid of even more players from each side and playing shorter halves? Maybe get some tournaments going around the world...

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    coz Stone Cold says so

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    In places like Dubai, Hong Kong and stuff! U might be on to something...

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    Unbefreakingleivable! You'd almost wonder whether some "rugby" people even like the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    But Twenty20 cricket has Cheerleaders
    13 Players a side?

    Cheerleaders?


    I think I've found the game and club for you Flame:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Article View Post
    "If you remember any game when two players have been sent to the sin bin from one team, the amount of space available to the non-offending team is immense," Jones wrote. "With one more body off, players would have more time and space to operate in attack, but in a structure that resembles a game of XVs. I'd still operate scrums and lineouts."
    There's more space for the attacking team because they have 15 players against 13. 13 against 13 would have more 'space', but not the overlap to exploit it. Muppet!

    If you want a game that's similar in structure to union, but with fewer players, get down to a 10's tournament! That's the game we should be proposing as a 'Rugby 20-20' (and probably 10's for the Olymics rather than 7's, but that's another argument.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSB View Post
    There's more space for the attacking team because they have 15 players against 13. 13 against 13 would have more 'space', but not the overlap to exploit it. Muppet!
    exactly .. what a dumbarse <sigh>


    How about we have two halves with 3 players on one side and 33 players on the other.. then swap over for the 2nd half?? That would create a lot of tries.. the spectators would flock.. geez louise

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSB View Post
    If you want a game that's similar in structure to union, but with fewer players, get down to a 10's tournament! That's the game we should be proposing as a 'Rugby 20-20' (and probably 10's for the Olymics rather than 7's, but that's another argument.)
    Leave the Olympics to 7s - it has a global international footprint that 10s could never hope to have.

    10s can be great at club or provincial level though. Does anyone remember the old Ballymore 10s tournament? They used to get good crowds to that.

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