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    Rebels have spotted their enemy on the western horizon

    1/12/2012
    By The Roar




    Fan article originally published on The Roar's sports opinion website. Submit your own Rugby article to The Roar for potential publication on Rugby.com.au/Wallabies

    Paul Roberton

    Nothing says blockbuster like the words ‘traditional rivals’. Rivalries are commonplace in sport but always make for special encounters. For the player it’s about pride and one-upmanship. For the fan it’s about bragging rights and sledging the day after.

    A rivalry usually begins with a close encounter, a poached player or coach, or some instinctive display of passion overflowed. Rivalries usually entail an intangible dislike and begrudging respect for the opposition that make the wins sweeter and the losses far more sour. They prickle the pride. They motivate.

    Cameron Smith commented to Karl de Kroo of the Herald Sun on the Storm-Broncos rivalry in the lead-up to their 2009 final at Etihad Stadium:
    “I think all the boys for whatever reason would say we take more satisfaction out of beating the Broncos… Maybe it is because of Craig’s connection with Brisbane, and he has passed that on to us, but we love playing them. Even outside of finals time, there is always plenty of feeling and intensity in the games…it probably wouldn’t feel like September if we weren’t playing them at some stage… They are always great matches. They always are close finishes… We love playing them and they love playing us. It will be a great battle.”

    The Rebels are a new team, built from scratch in a pan-Pacific competition.

    It’s probably a stretch to suggest they have a rivalry with any particular team yet. It’s also unlikely in the short term that one team will emerge as a focal point of tribalism in such a busy fixture. As a result, it’s more practical to consider from where the rivalries may emerge.

    It’s tempting to suggest the Waratahs as a team to beat, but their fans don’t really hate the Rebels or their fans enough for them to show too much interest. The Waratahs beat the Rebels twice last year and it’s going to take a while for the Rebels to peg back the ledger and make it interesting.

    For similar reasons the Reds are equally unlikely. They’re the current champions, with bigger fish to fry. That’s not to say the Brumbies or Force are lesser opponents given their respective place on the table, but in 2010 the Rebels head to head was 1:1 with both sides – a crucial part of the rivalry equation.

    When the Rebels beat the Brumbies, it was a nail biter. It was an emotional night at AAMI Park. Stirling Mortlock scored the side’s first try and Henry Speight scored from a forward pass to add to the drama. It was the last minute Cipriani penalty attempt that had Rebels fans on their feet and Brumbies fans throwing their remotes at their flat screens. It’s that kind of moment that breeds a rivalry. It was a home win for the Rebels and an upset at that. If the two teams trade a few more wins and losses, the Brumbies are a surefire candidate for traditional rivals.

    That said however, a true rivalry needs a good win in unfamiliar surroundings, with a hostile crowd baying for blood. The Western Force fans have a vocal following at home. The Rebels embarrassed the Western Force at NIB stadium in front of its home crowd, a crowd expecting to win. It wasn’t that the margin was embarrassing so much as the way it came about.

    First and foremost was Hugh Pyle scoring against the flow with an intercept. The lock forward floated out of the line to intercept the ball and lumbered beyond the Western Force’s defensive line to score beneath the posts. In addition to Pyle’s efforts was the Danny Cipriani cross-field penalty kick to Richard Kingi lurking on the left wing.

    The two plotted a conspiracy to catch their hosts unawares which, thankfully for Rebels fans, was successful. That Richard Kingi try will probably be a one of a kind, but will forever be close in the Rebels fans’ kit bag when the Force come to town.


    The Western Force are the next most recent Australian team in the competition so it’s natural the Rebels performances are measured against their debut season. It’s also natural for Rebels fans to progress at least on par with them. The Rebels fans will be willing their team ahead of the curve set by the Force between 2006 and 2010, creating a tense scrutiny of Rebels versus Force games.

    It was the Western Force that deprived Victoria of a Super Rugby slot years ago.

    It’s certainly not a vital ingredient but it enriches the relationship between the two sides. Add to that the acquisition of James O’Connor and to a lesser degree Mitch Inman, and we start to see the seeds of something with a good bit of conflict and antagonism.

    The upstarts of the competition had the cheek to lure a current Wallaby and Western Force star who is approaching his peak. As a result no Force fan is likely to give the Rebels, or their fans, a free pass around Perth. It may not be a traditional rivalry yet, but the Force have to be the closest. There’ll be a bit of feeling between the two sides this year.

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    forgot to mention how we gave you a lesson in the final round last year in front of your home crowd with 50 to 100 of those dedicated Force fans making the trip despite ash cloud dramas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    forgot to mention how we gave you a lesson in the final round last year in front of your home crowd with 50 to 100 of those dedicated Force fans making the trip despite ash cloud dramas.
    and then over-taking the bar your supporters have called their own.

    i reckon i'll be dead and buried before another bunch of supporters take over jb's while we all still go there...

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    That bloke sitting in front of us who stayed quiter than a mouse until they briefly hit the lead. He shot off pretty quick after full time as well

    Victard Rabble only sing when they're winning

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    quite like those who were in front of us at Canberra

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    That bloke sitting in front of us who stayed quiter than a mouse until they briefly hit the lead. He shot off pretty quick after full time as well

    Victard Rabble only sing when they're winning
    Re: canberra, brumbie jack has never been sledged so much in a game!..
    Re: melbourne,I remember that guy!.. He thought forward passes were common place in union.... We out cheered our victorian foes, easily at aami park... And then drank them under the table.... When the "FORCE-FORCE" chant when up in their pub, they quickly relised what an inforcers tour is all about!!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slomo View Post
    Re: melbourne,I remember that guy!.. He thought forward passes were common place in union....
    He had probably watched too much Fumbleball in his life

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    On Rebel Army FB (I've been spying) re rivalry
    * names have been removed to protect!

    " I'd have to lean heavily towards the Force being our first 'major' rivalry. As Paul said, the feeling that they stole our place back in '04 gives us (the fans, at least) a bit more incentive to have a go at them when we win."

    Rebel Army Gav: We are always looking for simple songs/chants for our rivals, especially the Force (we don't really have anything specific).


    " no, force cause they stole our place in 2004"

    "Melbourne rebels over the force, Victorians see no other course, face 'em during the morning. THEY GET BEAT, face em in the day. THEY GET BEAT. Beat them every time. EVERY TIME WE MEET! REBELS! REBELS! REBELS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    and then over-taking the bar your supporters have called their own.

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    and I stayed there until closing!

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    They wish we were their rivals, truth is they're just an annoyance like a little dog nipping at your heels ....

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    I thought the article was extremely generous with the impact of the signings on the rivalry. Mitch Inman is a genuine loss, but not one which I think will hurt much, in fact, it's probably done more for Mitch than the Rebels, given he was instantly replaced by two Shute Shielders who proved to be equal to what he had. Melbourne have paid him a lot, where he might just be one of a whole gaggle of young outside backs capable of such play. As for Rabbit, I wouldn't so much call it luring a Wallaby away as offering a lifeline to our castoffs......I guess geography will decide which side of the fence you sit there.


    Ps can't say the rivalry's huge in my house, we hate the Brumbies and the tahs more

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post


    Ps can't say the rivalry's huge in my house, we hate the Brumbies and the tahs more
    agreed!...dislike the brumbies more, than any other australian franchise...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    I thought the article was extremely generous with the impact of the signings on the rivalry. Mitch Inman is a genuine loss, but not one which I think will hurt much, in fact, it's probably done more for Mitch than the Rebels, given he was instantly replaced by two Shute Shielders who proved to be equal to what he had. Melbourne have paid him a lot, where he might just be one of a whole gaggle of young outside backs capable of such play. As for Rabbit, I wouldn't so much call it luring a Wallaby away as offering a lifeline to our castoffs......I guess geography will decide which side of the fence you sit there.


    Ps can't say the rivalry's huge in my house, we hate the Brumbies and the tahs more

    yes - people forget that JOC was only signed after he was effectively fired from the force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slomo View Post
    agreed!...dislike the brumbies more, than any other australian franchise...........
    + 1

    I'll usually back all the Aussie sides but I find myself chuckling when the Brumbies lose to anyone
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    It was a great weekend in Melbourne for that game! And the Turf bar was great, even if we scared off all the Rabble!
    Mat and I (Al is a possible) have booked again for march 2012...
    Who else is heading over to stir up the rivalry?
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