Foley to head the Emirates Western Force

[Quins]

He didn't do too well last season but he will be fired up and motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

Let's do our job and give him our full support to prove himself and take the Force to where we know it can be.
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[sittingbison]

Genia never signed a contract...

tic, without having a chip on my shoulder (I never wanted Genia, had enough of high priced recruits since Gits, we need to create a production line and grow a team, not buy it), Genia AGREED to a contract,he shook hands on it, its called a "verbal agreement". Sure its not actually SIGNING it, but its still going back on his word, which is where GIGS20 is coming from.

In some parts, your word is your bond.

[brokendown gunfighter]

in the old days a verbal agreement was as enforcable as a written one

[Alison]

I wonder if Foley will bring Sarel with him? There was talk of him finishing up with the Tahs this year..

Now that would be the icing on the cake IMO!

Hope you've had a fabulous birthday Todd :-))

[Cowboy]

In some parts, your word is your bond.

The most lasting thing my father ever taught me
"your only as good as your word. If it means nothing then you do too."

[todd4]

Hope you've had a fabulous birthday Todd :-))

I have, thanks

[hertryk]

hAPPY bIRTHDAY tODD...

[Rex Messup]

in the old days a verbal agreement was as enforcable as a written one

In the old days, he would have got sorted out with 22mm steel

I miss the good ole days

I struggle with poofs having day spas, tweeting, hair bands, planking, "building" instead of performing, "we'll learn from that belting", "the group", general gayness

dead set

[shasta]

I struggle with poofs having day spas, tweeting, hair bands, planking, "building" instead of performing, "we'll learn from that belting", "the group", general gayness

dead set

...and drinking Carlton Mid at the footy, apparently.
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[GIGS20]

Genia never signed a contract.

You really need to get over this stuff. The chip on the shoulder mentality is probably what is preventing players and coaches from touching the place.

Sorry to be blunt and maybe a bit offensive, but sometimes you need to hear how people outside Perth are viewing the current situation.

I think Foley could be a really good pick up. Support him and you will have a very competitive team in a reasonable time frame. Undermine him and you will become the Waratahs.

It's not rocket science.

The way I hear it, the eastern states are saying it doesn't matter what you say it's what you sign that's important......I get that, when will you get that it think that mentality is a blight on our game, our history and our culture.

I yearn for a time, apparently long ago, when a bloke could be relied upon when he said he'd do something.

I can agree to disagree with you about it, but Genia has no honor, he plays for a team where honor is in short supply and it appears the entire state (if what you say is correct) is happy to sell their honor out as long as they get the good players.

Im actually happy he's over there, you guys seem to appreciate him!

[GIGS20]

in the old days a verbal agreement was as enforcable as a written one

I'd need Fulvio to back me up. But I believe it is still the case, but those cases are rarely ruled upon because of the difficulty of proving the verbal contract.

[zimeric]

TOC the "chip on the shoulder" is QLD's thing... im still seeing comments in regards to the Force "poaching" the reds best players in 2006 on GnGR and foxsports. I think we're entitled to have a whinge every nownagain dont you?

[normie]

Genia never signed a contract.

You really need to get over this stuff. The chip on the shoulder mentality is probably what is preventing players and coaches from touching the place.

It's not rocket science.

Rocket science it certainly isn't - it is far to simplistic to simply say "genia never signed a contract" . Written Contracts don't just fall out of corn flakes boxes- they are drawn up by lawyers after much discussion and agreement between parties. The fact that a contract was being prepared indicates discussion and agreement between parties was reached, thus the refusal to sign was indeed a reneging action. That said, although he went back on his word, he was legally within his rights to change his mind prior to signing on the dotted line. Good on him, I say, for having the courage (and good sense) to do this- for he clearly would not have been happy in WA.

Now that Foley has been appointed coach, I pray that he is able to see out his contract. I think the building of the Force into a .... er.... Force... is a longer term project and I will be happy to see a slow but steady improvement, with (hopefully) lots of local players earning a shot at immortality.

[AndyS]

And therein lies my real concern. We get another token foreign player, for good or bad we get a new coach, all the attention turns again to what players we should chase, but never anywhere a plan for how we are going to develop local players. Seven years on now and we are still waving goodbye to key players spouting lines about missing their mum. For all we have actually achieved since we started would we be any further behind if, once we had our original team, we had decided to spend all our money on an accelerated development program for local players and people prepared to commit themselves to a move here for an opportunity (a la Chucky)? Instead we chased short-term success, used and supplied the Shute Shield and built next to nothing - where will we realistically be seven years from now?

And now, once again, we have handed our team (and now apparently all our rugby structures) over to an ARU insider. Is he going to dedicate himself to improving the local comp and prioritise local players? Will he be spending money on re-establishing an academy program, over and above the extended player squad. Will he be creating an additional extended training squad, maybe running intensive development programs for players with specialist coaching, etc? Or will he just send players to and take players from the Shute Shield, like he has always done?

Because a time coming when this competition will split into haves and have nots....prossibly as soon as 2016. It is the inevitable end game for the conference system; the competition will start domestically then split for the international section. Those that go forward in the first few years will accumulate the players and sponsors, the rest will be nothing more than development teams unable to retain talent. I doubt you'd find anyone over East that would say it is "in the best interests of rugby" for WA to be taking up one of the international spots and we won't, unless everyone here is committed to the belief that we should. And at the moment, we are built exactly like a team that takes and develops talent but can't retain it.

[SNOB]

in the old days a verbal agreement was as enforcable as a written one

Today a contracts not worth the paper it's written on. Lawyers always seem to ba able to find away out of them IMO.