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    Crackdown on Scalpers (In NSW at least)

    Adrian Proszenko

    Sporting bodies could soon be able to create and enforce their own terms and conditions on ticket sales as part of anti-scalping legislation proposed by the NSW government.

    Sports Minister Graham Annesley and Fair Trading Minister Anthony Roberts met with representatives from sporting bodies including the NRL, ARU, Cricket Australia and Netball Australia on Thursday to discuss how to protect fans from scalpers.

    The government hopes legislation will be passed through Parliament in about three or four months, allowing laws to come into effect before marquee sporting events including the Bledisloe Cup, the NRL grand final and next year's Ashes Test at the SCG.

    The issue is a timely one, with tickets for the Wallabies versus British and Irish Lions Tests being sold for up to six times the original price. A bronze category ticket for the Suncorp encounter is selling on viagogo.com.au for $549 when the original price was just $95. A platinum ticket was recently put up for sale at $855 (original price $295), while some eBay tickets for the Sydney match are selling for more than double.

    Advertisement There will be further consultation with the entertainment industry and other stakeholders, but the final version tabled to cabinet is aimed at "reducing red tape" for sporting bodies. For instance, they will be able to directly force secondary sellers, such as eBay, to cancel tickets and remove them from sale if they are being sold at exorbitant prices.

    In Queensland, where anti-scalping legislation exists, there is an extra step as sporting bodies have to report the matter to police, who then have to pursue the matter with resellers.

    The sporting bodies themselves will also be able to determine the maximum price that tickets are able to be resold at. They could determine, for instance, that nothing gets resold at a premium of more than 10 per cent.

    There were also discussions about requiring websites such as eBay to display a photo of the ticket. This will allow purchasers to view the original purchase price, minimising the risk of being lumped with a premium fee for lower-category tickets. It will also make it easier for sporting bodies to cancel tickets they believe are grossly overpriced.

    "We are about empowering the sporting codes to do whatever they feel they need to do to protect the interest of their own fans," Annesley said. "It's giving them the option to determine to what extent they feel the obligation to protect their fans. The legislation will also enforce the outcome of that. There will be requirements on the secondary marketplace they will have to adhere to to be within the law."

    Roberts added: "We're bringing back openness, transparency and honesty in the secondary marketplace, which is crucial. There's a great deal of fraud that occurs to the detriment of consumers.

    "As a fan, how can you compete with these auto-bots when the tickets are released? We're empowering the sporting codes to address the issues."

    The proposed legislation was greeted warmly by sporting bodies. "The proposal . . . would also position NSW as a leader in fighting ticket scalping," an ARU spokesman said. "We would encourage other jurisdictions to follow their approach."

    A Cricket Australia spokesman added: "Our hope is that potential future NSW legislation would become a best-practice model."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    For instance, they will be able to directly force secondary sellers, such as eBay, to cancel tickets and remove them from sale if they are being sold at exorbitant prices.
    bahahhaha what a crock of shit - suggesting ebay will do the police work?

    Ebay gets a percentage of the value of the final sale, where is the incentive for them to cap sale prices on highly sought after items? and actually reduce potential ebay revenue???

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    case in point - x2 bronze tickets for lions game in melbourne on ebay now and the seller started at 0.99c

    it is currently up to $510 with over 2 days to go

    so who is in the wrong here, the guy selling the tickets or the DEMAND that is pushing the price up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    so who is in the wrong here, the guy selling the tickets or the DEMAND that is pushing the price up ?
    The guy selling the tickets

    As a part of the terms and conditions of purchase he is not allowed to re-sell them for more then face value (most sporting codes have that in the terms and condtions)

    I bet he hasn't got a picture of the tickets up on the advert

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    LOL yeah right

    what would you do Jargs - once they hit face value plus 10 percent - pull the auction?

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    Of course the auction won't be taken down

    All I pointed out was the guy is in violation of the terms and conditions - and thats why these adverts on ebay never have the actual seat location except for probably the seating block

    Scalpers are scumbags that prey on the passion of others

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